New Radio: First look at the Yaesu FTM-400DR/DE


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I just took delivery of a new Yaesu FTM-400DR/DE two days ago, and thought I’d give you some info about this new model. The 400 is, as far as I know, Yaesu’s first venture into the C4FM digital world, along with it’s new digital capable repeater and digital capable hand held units. At the moment, there aren’t many of these ‘in the wild’ so to speak, at least not in this area, so I haven’t been able to test the digital functions. This is by no means an in-depth review of the 400, more of a general overview of my initial impressions of the transceiver.

The unit comes with mounting hardware, including brackets and screws for both the control head (pictured) and the actual transceiver itself. There is no provision for mounting the control head to the transceiver. It must be mounted separately. The transceiver itself is fairly standard size, about the same dimensions as the FT-7900 unit that it is replacing.

As you can see, the control head boasts a 3.5 inch TTF color touch screen, which is used both as a display as well as for accessing the functions of the radio. The 400 has dual receivers. The active transmit frequency is indicated by the brightness of the display. In this case, the unit would transmit on 147.300, the top frequency. The display is easy to read. As a touch screen, it’s not as responsive as I’d like. It takes what seems to be an inordinate amount of time for it to register a touch, but that’s perhaps because I’m more used to more reactive screens on my iPad.

The metal bracket for the control head is not adjustable and seems most suited for mounting the head on top of the dashboard. I suspect most users will quickly discard it in favor of an aftermarket version that allows more flexibility. I did not wish to run screws into the dash on my brand new Jeep, so I opted for attaching it to the top of the dash with heavy duty Velcro. A single cable with a telephone jack style connector links the head to the radio. The microphone must be plugged into the transceiver, not the control head. I’m not sure if I like that or not yet. You’ll either have to mount the transceiver reasonably close to your sitting position in your vehicle, or buy an optional extension cord to connect the microphone.

You may wish to mount the transceiver somewhere that permits easy access, because the micro SD card slot is on the transceiver itself, especially if you make frequent use of the optional microphone camera you can buy for it.

Getting the 400 up and running was irritating.

First the Automatic Repeater Shift (ARS) that I’ve come to know and love simply does not work. Period. I tried resetting the radio, turning the function on and off, nothing worked to make it functional. It just plain doesn’t work. So that has to be programmed in manually for every repeater frequency. Then the repeater offset frequency defaults on UHF were wrong, so that had to be entered manually as well. (VHF was fine, FYI). Not a big deal because they can be entered manually easily enough, but when you prominently claim a feature in your manual, you should at least make sure it works properly.

Then there is the menu system itself. In order to set up a repeater frequency, you have to go to two different sub-menus, select different options in each, and even then it won’t work because now you have to exit the menu system and go to the separate function system to actually turn on all of the settings you just entered.

Why? I have no idea. Wouldn’t it make more sense to group all of those options and functions together in the same menu?

Once I got all of that figured it, I was finally able to try it out. The radio does work quite well. The receivers seem adequately sensitive. I’m told that my transmissions are clean and sound good.

It has two 500 channel memory banks, one for each receiver. I’ve only done very basic setup with the 400, so I can’t really comment much about the memory system except to say that it seems to work as advertised. You can enter an alphanumeric tag for each memory channel you have programmed (up to 8 characters long) which makes it a lot easier to remember what frequency is what. The touch screen comes in very handy here, allowing one to enter the data directly.

One note: The two memory banks are entirely separate from one another. The first bank only works with the top receiver, the second only with the bottom. You cannot, as far as I know, transfer memories from one bank to the other. If you wish to duplicate, for example, a repeater, in both banks, you’re going to have to go through all of the programming steps twice, once for each bank.

I’ve only used the radio for a short time, so it would be fair to try to go into details because I really don’t know any of the details as yet. I’ve had maybe 3 QSOs with it since I installed it in the Jeep. All I can say at this point in time is that it does work and seems to work pretty darn well.

A few general observations:

The FTM-400 works quite well in actual operation. The receivers seem more than adequate for the job. Signal reports I’ve received indicate that the audio on transmit is crisp and clear, with no problems at all in analog FM mode.

Once you get the memories programmed, operation is simple, very straightforward.

There is a caveat though: Because most of the functions of this radio are accessed via the touch screen, anything except the very basic operation is going to require pulling off the road so you can see and use the touch screen. DO NOT TRY TO OPERATE THE TOUCHSCREEN WHILE DRIVING.

Do I really need to repeat that? In order to do anything except the basics, you will have to take your eyes off the road to fumble with the touch screen. You will run off the road an possibly kill yourself or, even worse, someone else.

I never did figure out why the ARS doesn’t work, or why the default repeater frequency shifts are messed up because, frankly, I can’t be bothered. It’s a minor annoyance and easy to do manually.

Mounting the body of the transceiver might be an issue for some. I just have it sitting in a recess in the center console of the Jeep at the moment, but that’s a temporary solution at best. I’m going to need to rig up some kind of permanent mounting location in the very near future. Wherever it goes, you have to make sure there is adequate ventilation because it does indeed give off considerable heat when in use.

Complicating things is the fact that the microphone has to be connected to the transceiver itself, not the control/display head. On the FT-7900 it’s replacing the mic plugged into the head, not the body of the transceiver. So you’re going to have to run two cables to the transceiver. Complicating things even more is that the mic cable is considerably shorter than the cable for the remote head, so if you’re going to mount the transceiver in, for example, the trunk or somewhere else out of the way, you’re going to have to get an extension cable for the mic, or trace the pinouts on the connectors and build your own.

The touch screen isn’t responsive enough. It isn’t like touching a button where you just hit the button and release. You have to physically hold your finger on the screen for a full second before it senses the touch. It is potentially dangerous as well because in order to operate anything on the touch screen you have to take your attention away from driving and focus on the screen.

I would also like to have a little chat with the person who decided now to implement the squelch controls on this thing. In order to adjust the squelch, you have to touch (and hold for a little over a full second) the SQL control on the touch screen. Then, and only then, can you use the knob to actually adjust the squelch level. Because I drive through areas with severe interference from a variety of sources, I’m constantly fiddling with the squelch. Turning it up to cover temporary interference, turning it down so I can hear less powerful stations or more distant repeaters. It’s damned annoying.

What it boils down to, is the 400 worth the very hefty price they’re charging for it?

I hate to say this, but for the average VHF/UHF user, no, it isn’t. The FTM-400 is retailing for around $600 at the moment, and you can get one hell of a nice VHF/UHF transceiver for half that price. The average amateur radio operator is never going to use all of the bells and whistles that make this radio so costly. Digital voice? Frankly, who cares? The ability to send photos to other hams who have one of the compatible Yaesu units? Well, if that’s your thing, go for it. But for the average person it doesn’t matter. The built in GPS? Again, so what? Most of us operating mobile have GPS either built into our vehicles already or can run inexpensive GPS units. Some of the functions might be useful for ARES/RACES groups, but the vast majority of users don’t need the capabilities.

Author: grouchyfarmer

Yes, I'm a former farmer. Sort of. I'm also an amateur radio operator, amateur astronomer, gardener, maker of furniture, photographer.

6 thoughts on “New Radio: First look at the Yaesu FTM-400DR/DE”

  1. As a user of this radio I have to disagree with some of your statements. I can control the radio in my mobile rig while driving (no need to pull off the road) but I’m sure you do this as well now that you are accustomed to the rig (I took it that you wrote this almost immediately after getting the radio). I’ve not ran off the road and, obviously, haven’t killed myself or anyone else by using this radio as you said will happen.

    The digital capabilities are really catching on, thanks to Yaesu’s crazy low $500 per repeater promotion they are doing. Clubs all over the place have YSF repeaters now, including my local club.

    If the touch screen is really giving you the problems you describe then you have a faulty radio. The screen on my unit is plenty sensitive (but no, not like an iPhone or iPad where you can just barely make contact but like a regular resistive screen…). You do have to ‘press’ the screen but that’s how resistive touch screens operate by design. Hopefully by now you would fault it a little less for this, after using it awhile.

    I’ll agree with you on the menu system for entering a repeater manually. Oh man, can that get tedious! I purchased the RT Systems software and use a microSD card and it’s much easier. In the software you can copy/paste from bank A to bank B (much like a spreadsheet) so that helps. I know, that’s an add-on thing and something else to buy; I’m not disagreeing with your statement there. It’s not as simple as it seems it should be.

    I’ll also agree about the microphone. I wish it connected to the control head. The ONLY reason I can think of that they made it plug to the body of the radio instead of the head is because the USB for connecting the optional mic with the camera attaches to the body (and probably had to or the cable between the head and body of the radio would be 2 or 3 times bigger than it is). That may be wrong, and it still annoys me as well, but that’s just a guess.

    You list the digital voice as a “bell and whistle” yet I would beg to differ. As I said earlier, it is catching on quickly and is incredibly nice. Someone keys up to talk to you and the display shows their call sign as well as how far away from you they are and in what direction (as long as that feature is not turned off on the radio by the user). I’m not talking about APRS, which it also does, but a feature of the SystemFusion digital. It’s awesome. Of course, in analog it doesn’t do that but it still works great in analog as well.

    And you diss the GPS as if it is a Garmin or TomTom – IT’S NOT! Not intended for that NOR does it function like that. It’s for APRS and/or the location services of the SystemFusion repeaters. MANY radios from several manufacturers have GPS built-in these days for APRS and other features.

    Other pluses are crossband repeat (I believe this was left out of the manual but there are instructions online), dual receive (v/u, u/v, v/v, u/u), etc.

    I simply wanted to post this comment, since there are none, in the event that others stumble across this page as I did and are turned off to this radio by your negative ‘review’ or comments. THIS IS YOUR PAGE AND YOU ARE MORE THAN RIGHT IN SHARING YOUR OPINION HERE. I just didn’t want someone to take it as the gospel and think the FTM-400DR is a piece of overpriced junk. No, it isn’t cheap but it also has a boat load of great features that are, in MY opinion, worth the price IF THERE IS/ARE A/SOME YSF REPEATERS AROUND YOU.

    You may still hate the radio and that’s your right. I encourage folks to give it a chance, though.



    1. Hi, Mark. Thanks for your comments.

      I’m really very glad you like the 400. You have some very valid points. A lot of my criticisms of the 400 are a matter of personal preference. As I said, I have two of the things now, one used as a base in the house, the other in my wife’s car. It’s basic functionality as a VHF/UHF transceiver has been rock solid. I have no complaints at all in that area.


    2. My radio came with a USB programming cable and a web address link to the free programming software on the Yaesu website.

      Using a PC to program these radios makes it considerably easier. You can even program them without the USB cable, it can all be done by physically transferring data by Micro SD card.

      It’s also worth making sure you have the latest firmware version in the radio.

      However, the lack of a separate, dedicated squelch control is a pain… unless you’re operating in digital mode. 😉


      1. I’m glad they’re including the cable and software now. These things are getting so complex they’re almost impossible to program without linking them to a computer sometimes. Still, I do like the transceiver. We have two of them, one in the house we use as a base, and one in use as a mobile rig, and both have been performing well. We still have yet to use the digital modes, though. There are some digital repeaters up in the Appleton/Green Bay area now, but except for one net that uses digital, no else uses that mode that I’ve noticed. There still aren’t a lot of digital mobile transceivers out there.


  2. I had an I-Com IC-7100 briefly, and had some of the same issues. I was seriously considering the FTM-400DR for my wife’s car (which doubles as our road trip car). I feared many of the things you commented about. I had similar issues with the IC-7100, and I know it would cause me to be unhappy with the radio.

    Thank you for posting the honest review.


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